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How to Mod the Hori Fighting Stick EX2 with Authentic Arcade Parts (Xbox 360 Version)

The Hori Fighting Stick EX2 is a good stick that I got pretty cheap, but like all stock joysticks, there are plenty of room for improvements. In my review of this stick, I brought up two minor complaints with this stick: mushy buttons and the square restrictor plate. Well, here’s the walk-through on how to fix these issues.  With a little soldering skill and plenty of patience, you can make this good stick into an incredible one and it’s not as hard as you might think.

(UPDATE: If you are looking for more joystick projects then head over here to add an actual Sanwa Stick inside your Hori EX2 or here to mod the MadCatz Fight stick.)

WARNING:

This is a simple project if you have some technical skills. This walkthrough is as simplified as I can make it so if none of this makes any sense then please DO NOT ATTEMPT. This project will void your warranty.

Attempt at your own risk!

Pineconeattack will not take any responsibility if you kill your joystick.

Learn from my mistakes and read through this walk-through BEFORE attempting. I’ve made and corrected a few mistakes when upgrading both Ancient Flounder’s and my stick, so learn from my mistakes and read through this walk-through BEFORE attempting. Make sure you have the proper tools before beginning. This will make your mod much faster and much easier.

Unless you really like the stock art that came with your joystick, you will want to replace that decal with something a little more to your tastes with something cool looking; something that will make this joystick truly yours. Look for a nice high-resolution piece of art and download the templates here to size up your artwork perfectly. There is no use to start on this project unless you have the art printed and laminated. Once you size up the image file and have it printed out, head over to your local FedEx Office and have it lami-labled.

Lami-label is the quickest and easiest way to protect your art from the oils in your hands. It’s a laminate with a sticky siding on the backside; it will literally turn your printed pic into a laminated sticker. Now that you have your art laminated and ready for install, let’s proceed with the actual mod.

Here is the list of suggested tools you will need for this project:

One (1) Hori Fighting Stick EX2

Your lami-labled art work

Six (6) Sanwa “OBSF-30” Pushbuttons with Vertical Micro-switch (color of your choosing)

One (1) Sanwa “LB-35” Joystick Ball Top

One (1) Sanwa “GT-Y” Octagonal Restrictor Plate

Soldering Iron

Solder

Solder Sucker

Phillips and Flathead Screwdriver (4-in-1)

Razor Blade

Four (4) “Cherry” Micro-switches

Dremel Tool or a file

18 gauge wire (Solid wire) [You can get it here @ Radio Shack]

Wire Stripper and a Side Cutter

A container to hold the spare parts.  (I used a plastic cup.)

Step 1:   Simply unscrew the six (6) screws and place them into the storage container.  Carefully remove the metal plate and set it aside.

Step 2:  Unsolder the 2 points for each buttons (a total of 12 points).  Use the solder sucker to remove the melted solder.  You should start at the daughter board first and work your way towards the main PCB.  Gently pull the PCB free from the buttons.  Carefully move the PCB out of the way to expose the six (6) buttons underneath.

Step 3: Use the flat tip of the screwdriver and firmly press into the tabs holding the Hori buttons in place.  The buttons should “pop” right out when the tabs are pressed in.  Dispose of the cheaply made Hori buttons.

Step 4: Now that all of the buttons are removed, you need to remove the joystick shaft.  The only thing keeping the joystick in place in the small “C” clip holding the shaft and the spring in place.  Wedge the Flathead screwdriver to carefully remove the “C” clip. Gather up the shaft and the rest of the miscellaneous parts and put them into your  storage container.  DO NOT LOSE THE “C” CLIP OR ANY OTHER PART TO THE JOYSTICK!

Step 5: Now that the buttons and the joystick shaft is removed, peel off the decal.  I used my razor blade to start the peel near the buttons and slowly but firmly pulled back.  If you go too fast, the decal will be removed but the glue will still be in place and that’s a bad thing.  If you are lucky the majority of the glue would have been removed.  Whatever glue that is left can be rubbed away with old fashion friction.  So, rub away.

After the plate piece has been stripped clean, use your Phillips head screwdriver and remove the six (6) screws to separate the plate from the joystick base.

Step 6: DO NOT MAKE MY FIRST MISTAKE!* Dremel the tabs down, but do it away from your work area.  I walked my piece over to the kitchen sink and began to grind away. I carefully made the holes slightly wider just so I would not have to fight with the buttons when I was about to install them.

*My first attempt had left microscopic metal shavings all over my work area and that scratched up the buttons I was working with.  Dremel/file your tabs AWAY from your work area.

Step 7: Wipe down your plate of any and all metal shavings, because you will be using this piece as the template to cut your laminated art.  Place the plate over your at work and use a very sharp blade and slowly trim the sides to size.

After the artwork has been trimmed down, install the plate back onto the joystick base.  Screw the six (6) screws back in to secure the plate.  Now very carefully peel the adhesive backing on your artwork and place the artwork over the plating.

Step 8: Now with the artwork in place, use a sharp blade to cut out the button and joystick holes.  The sharper the blade, the better because you will have to cut through the artwork, laminate and the adhesive backing.  You want the holes as round and smooth as possible for easier button installation.

Step 9: Previously, I tested to see if the buttons would fit and for the most part they did, but they have smalls nubs that seemed to get stuck. So, I decided to just trim the nubs flush with the button’s sides.  Trust me, this will make the button installation much easier.  This step is optional, so it’s really up to you.

Step 10: Push all the buttons in place until you hear a “snap”, signifying the buttons are secured. Before flipping the base over to work on the back, be sure to lay out a rag or something soft to prevent scratches from forming on the buttons.  Bend the pins to the buttons on the far right to make more room for the main PCB control board.  You can push all of the pins down; it’s up to you.

Step 11:  Don’t worry about trying to direct connect the push buttons pins’ to the PCB’s.  Cut twelve (12) short snippets of wires about one (1) inch long.  Strip each end like in the picture above.  You will use these short wires to connect the buttons to the PCB.

Step 12: Tin the ends of only one end on each wire then tin the ends to both pins on the push buttons.  Solder the tinned ends to each other.  Bend the wires so each ends are pointing up.  The wires will not only help keep the PCB’s from grounding out on the metal base, but also give you the flexibility to make everything fit inside the casing.

Step 13:  Feed the wires into the soldering points and solder in place.  Once everything is soldered, gently move the PCB’s out of the way where they are not in the way.  If you can muster the courage, the direct solder job* is the cleanest and more reliable route to go but I prefer the quick and easy route; therefore, I’m soldering onto the daughter PCB. Congratulations, you have now installed Sanwa buttons to your joystick.

*Option: If you want to make this mod more badass you can unsolder the daughter PCB and solder longer pieces of wire directly onto the main PCB. I decided against this method because there is too many places were I can destroy the main PCB and I don’t feel that confident with my soldering skills to do that precise soldering.

Step 14: Unscrew the four (4) screws to remove the square restrictor plate and revealing the black Hori micro-switches.

Step 15: Replace each black Hori micro-switches with a new white Cherry micro-switch.  Replace each switch one wire at a time to prevent confusion with the ground wires.  Tin the end of you wire and tin the ends of each connector.  Solder and connect each and every wire.  The Hori micro-switches are fine, but the Cherry switches are arcade quality.  Since you have the stick all torn apart, you might as well upgrade, right?

[Update: I guess there has been some confusion on which micro-switch you should purchase from Happs.  So here you go.]

All of my switches that I use are the cheap $0.97 ones,
part number: 95-0733-01
type: D44
terminals: .187
amps: 10

Step 16:  There is four specific spots that needs to be drilled/Dremeled out in order for the new 8-way restrictor to fit onto the micro-switches.  Make sure the two nubs in the yellow center ring are pointed up at you.  You will see the four points since they are indented aready.  Just fit your bit into the hole and slowly drill out to the other side of the restrictor plate.

Step 17:  Since I used a Dremel tool to drill out my holes I got some melted plastic that formed around the new holes.  Just take a sharp knife and carefully cut away the excess.  You want the hole to be level with the restrictor plate because the head of the screw will need to lay flat against it.

Step 18: Now lay your modified 8-way restrictor plate over the four (4) Micro-switches and screw them down with the original four (4) screws.  The switches should now be held in place and looking good.

Step 19: For some silly reason, this step confused the hell out of me and I needed to look at another joystick to see how it was put back together, which is why I took this picture.  The shaft (with lollipop ball), dust cover and the curved plastic washer are to be put together is that order and placed on the top side of the stick.  The two plastic piece are sandwiched between the spring and is installed on the bottom of the shaft from the bottom side of the stick.  The “C” clip is what holds everything in place.  Once everything is assembled, your joystick will now feel smooth, due to the new restrictor plate.  Now install the base cover plate and screw down with the six (6) screws.

Step 20: With a rag around the joystick, clamp down with an adjustable wrench or pliers and twist the top off with your hands.  Take your new ball top and twist on to finally complete your mod.

Congratulations, you finished your joystick.  Now, go kick ass or get your ass handed to you in Street Fighter and quit complaining about the controller.

Do you want to put a Sanwa stick inside your Hori Ex2?  Then check out this mod:

How to mod your Sanwa Joysticks to work in the Hori EX2 & Wii Fighting Stick

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129 comments to How to Mod the Hori Fighting Stick EX2 with Authentic Arcade Parts (Xbox 360 Version)

  • K0rNb4LL,

    To answer your first question about the Sanwa Joystick Adapter: Yes, that is the one you want for the LB-30-N bat top.

    I changed my spring out the other day. I picked up a pack of assorted springs from Home Depot for under 4 bucks. I was not sure about the size, so I just used trial and error method. First, I added a spring inside/within the stock spring, but it was too tight.

    So, I opened up the fight pad again and just removed the the stock spring, but left the new one there. I think it is perfect now. The spring I am using was in the assorted pack and was a cone shape (started big but got small on one end.) I cut it down a little bit on the small end to make it work. I would definitely recommend changing the spring as it made a big improvement.

  • K0rN b4LL

    So you just cut the spring down to the same length as the stock one right?

  • K0rN b4LL

    Ok, more serious question. Does anyone know another place you can get the lamilabeling done because I did a serch online and there arn’t any within an hour drive of where I live. (way too lazy to drive that far to get one image printed) We’ve got a Staples, Office Max, and UPS store but I havn’t gone to ask them about it yet.

  • K0rN b4LL

    “arn’t any FEDEX STORES within an hour” is what I meant to say

  • Saruto

    Somehow when I was doing this mod the daughter PCB glue came undone and completely fell off. Is there any way I can put it back together or do I have to solder everthing to the main PCB? It sucks because I already soldered the wires to the buttons, just as I was about to solder the wires to the daughter PCB it just comes off.

  • Saruto

    Ultimate fail. I soldered the buttons to the main PCB but only one button registers when I tested it out and that one sporadically. I think I might just buy an SE Madcatz and put my buttons/artwork/balltop/gate on there.

    I still have no clue HOW the daughter PCB came undone :(

  • Sounds like to me your soldering iron is way too hot. Unsolder the buttons and try again. Use a soldering braid to remove all of the solder. And try again. Be sure to ground yourself or you may short the board. Is your stick for Xbox 360 or PS3?

  • Saruto

    I’m going to try again tomorrow, maybe with some wire of a different gauge and my friends more expensive soldering iron (his can regulate the temp of the tip). 18 AWG is little tough to work with.

  • @ Suruto: If you have a PS3 stick and the board shorted, you could always install a Cthulhu board.

    My EX2 died and I added the Cthulhu and use it as a PS3 & PS2/Xbox stick (with adapter)

    @ K0rN b4LL: Office Depot/Max should offer laminated stickers. If all else fails, laminate your art and buy spray on glue and glue the art work to your stick.

  • K0rN b4LL

    About how much amps should you have the iron set to?

  • K0rN b4LL

    Ok, let me reqhrase that. I have a soldering iron that has 15 amps for the lowest setting. Should that work or is that too hot?

  • K0rN b4LL

    Ok thanks, that should be my last question. Sorry about all the posts, I’m used to forums with the edit options and I have a tendancy to hit enter a little too soon.

  • Ok, so my stick worked great for about a month (after modding.) Then, I started having intermittent issues with button x,y, and RT. This week all 3 just stopped working and have not worked since. My solder connections are solid, so I am thinking the PCB is bad.

    I am open to any ideas or trouble isolation suggestions. If I need to, does anybody know of a tutorial to change the PCB and exactly what other PCB (i.e. madcatz controller, 360 controller) will work.

    Any help with this is greatly appreciated!!

  • It sounds like your stick did the same thing mine did: commit suicide. After my pcb died,I bought a Madcatz fight stick and modded that instead. You can add a 360/madcatz controller but I didn’t see it as cost effective in terms of overall cost of the stick and my time.

    I turned my Hori EX2 into a PS3 stick buy replacing the PCB and rewiring everything. I plan on up grading my PCB to make it a universal (except for the xbox 360)USB stick. I’ll do a little write up on the conversion.

    To install another Xbox 360 PCB, i would suggest heading over to Shoryuken.com and read their tech section. There’s a plethora of information over at SRK.

    I would personaly get a Madcatz, they are nicer sticks and much easier to mod.

  • kitsunisan

    “I would personaly get a Madcatz, they are nicer sticks and much easier to mod.”

    Seeing these words still seems wrong to me, Madcatz actually making a quality product.
    Great tutorial, I shall be using it when Luckyday ships me that DOA stick.

  • itsjonvu

    i got everything wired, but theres something wrong with my directional buttons

    when i press left, it goes left too fast. then when i try to press up, it’d go down instead.
    my right and down button works fine though. is there something i did wrong?

  • itsjonvu

    nvm. i read your wii mod and figured it out

  • Fritz

    im getting ready to mod my EX2. I had a quick question with regards to button selection. If I went with the Sanwa OBSF-24 push puttons(24MM), would i be able to avoid having to dremel out the tabs(so they can just push in), or would they be to small and just fall through. If not, i guess i gotta buy a tool and go with the Sanwa OBSF-30s..thanks for your input.

  • The 24 mm buttons are too small. You can hand file out the tabs to make the 30mm buttons fit. It will be tight but the 30mm buttons will fit.

  • Fritz

    Thanks Jango…just ordered everything…see how this goes cuz if it goes well then i will open up my TE stick and do some customization…and if that goes well, im constructing up a 2 person sitdown arcade machine. but let me start off with the hori before i get silly like that. again, thanks for the quick response

  • Fritz

    having a hard time finding the cherry microswitches. any other recommendations?

  • Try:

    Southtown-Homebrew.com

    lizardlick.com

    gamingnow.net

    excellentcom.net

    modchipman.com

    happcontrols.com

  • helloki11er

    do all ex 2 pcb’s fail ???

  • K0rN b4LL

    Does Sanwa have a website where I can order the parts from them directly? Lizardlick sent me the wrong order and now they are saying they don’t have the color buttons I want.

    Also, when you say that the pcb will fail do you mean that the mod causes it or that it will fail eventually even if left alone?

  • bluith

    The site that sells the cherry switches no longer has the “Part: 95-0733-01 Terminal: .187 Amp:10″ switches, but on this page http://happcontrols.com/electrical_supplies/95073301.htm they have a switch for the same price with the same terminals but is 15 amp.
    Would it be ok to use those?

  • Those shouldn’t be a problem.

  • keyofnight

    I did this mod on the PS3 version of the Hori FS3. The results can be seen in this flickr photo set. The FS3 almost the same and the mod was pretty much the same as the guide said it to be (thanks a lot, btw, for the great guide).

    There are—though—a few things I’d like to make sure people know.

    First, @K0rnb4ll, the PCB is likely to touch the metal cover if you’ve modded it as shown. Before you mod it, the buttons are soldered to the PCB, and the PCB stays in one place. If, however, you add wiring, you give the PCB room to wiggle around and touch the metal bottom cover. If the contacts on a circuit board touch a conductive material while it is turned on, then all of those contacts are connected together. That means you’re going to get a shorted PCB.

    The Hori PCB is fine if you take care of it, so make sure you do your mods responsibly: cover the metal bottom with electrical tape and figure out a way to keep the board from floating around. I modded my Sanwa button terminals to fit the PCB’s holes as shown in this SRK post.

    One last thing. I like the Stock Hori Stick, so this guide is cool for showing how to add the Cherry Switches! I did the same and it kicks ass. I also like square gates, and I don’t like the hard Sanwa corners. The Hori gate is just right! The problem is: the Cherry switch terminals get in the way of the clips on the Hori gate. If you like the stock gate too, then the solution is simple: cut the damned clips off! The screws should do an excellent job of holding the gate in place (just as they do of holding the Sanwa gate in place).

    Thanks again for the guide.

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